- Vintage
Speedmaster's (what should I expect to
pay?)
- Revisited
for January 2001
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- Originally
Written by Chuck
Maddox
on 18 June 2000,
- Last
Revised: 27 February, 2001, 01:22
GMT
- Certain
Rights
Reserved...
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- In June 2000
a reader in the Omega Forum asked:
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- What
price can I expect to pay for a secondhand
Speedmaster?
The short
answer is "What the market will
bear", but what is that? My reply was
somewhat longer and eventually was as
TZClassic
1304: How much would I expect to pay for a
vintage Speedmaster?.
While for the
most part the original document has held up
better than I had hoped it is now outdated in
several ways.
- The prices
have changed in many cases.
- I have a
couple of the model numbers slightly off
when referring to them in the original
document.
Thus I am
revisiting the old document to bring it up to
this date, correct it and perhaps add some
additional information. I am including the
values I gave in the original document to
serve as a time/data reference point for what
the going values were in June 2000. This will
allow one to get a sense of trends in these
values.
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- Contents:
- Important
Disclaimer
- The
Pre-Pro Models:
 1957
Speedmaster CK2915- 1958~63
Speedmaster
CK2998/ST105.002
- 1964~65
Speedmaster ST105.003
- The
Professional c.321 Models:
- 1965
Speedmaster Professional
ST105.012
- Sidebar:
Speedmaster evolution
- 1966-67
Speedmaster Pro
ST145.012
- The
Pro. c.861 Models (Pre & Post
Moon):
- 1968-69
Speedmaster ST145.022:
- c.1970?~77?
Speedmaster ST145.022
- c.1978
and newer Speedmaster's:
- Anniversary
& Commemorative
Editions...
- Anniversary
Editions
- Commemorative
or "Mission Watches":
- Summary
and closing
thoughts...
- Consolidated
Pricing Table:
- Closing
Thoughts
- Afterword:
Looking back on
2001...
- Addendum:
How to determine street
price...
- Certain
Rights Reserved
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-
Once
again this important
disclaimer:
[Please
be aware that the prices mentioned in this
post are speculative, based on the
author's observations as of 28 January 2001.
Watches, vintage watches in particular, are a
commodity and as such are volatile and
subject to supply & demand... In addition
they will vary widely because of condition,
originality, papers (if any), open warrantee,
other "Extras", and intangibles. There are
plenty of poorly maintained, cobbled
together, faked model's rare and otherwise
out there on the market. Be very cautious and
remember any printed document is no
substitute for a dialog in a watch forum. If
you have questions speak up, or be prepared
to make mistakes. To put it simply... Your
decisions are your own, make them wisely...
-- Chuck Maddox 28 January
2001]
Addendum:
The
quickest way to get a short term picture of
the value of any thing is to do a
completed
auction
search
on any topic on eBay. This will show you what
the price is at close of auctions for items
similar to your search criteria. Of course
you will have to pick through the resulting
listing for comparative condition, location,
extra's, etc. of each item as well as if the
reserve was met, but this will give you a
basis idea as what similar items have been
closing at for the previous couple of
weeks...
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- In
Chronological Production Order:
The first Speedmaster
Models that Omega produced are the 1957 Speedmaster
CK2915. It is safe to call these models the only
"Pre-NASA" model. I have not seen any document that
anyone associated with NASA ever used or contemplated
using this model. As it was the first model made, it is
very distinctive (silver bezel, broad arrow hour hand and
wide sword minute hand, with the straight case) and they
were only in production for one year, they are very rare,
highly desired, and fetch exceedingly high asking and
selling prices.
In June 2000 I had
stated:
Original 1957
models (2915's) are in-orbit
fetching $3,000 and up.
- Truth be told I have
only seen one or two of these models even offered for
sale in the past couple of months, and the asking
price has been $7,000 and up. Ouch! I do not know if
any of the CK2915's are actually finding buyers at
that price but that is what people are
asking...
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1957
Speedmaster CK2915
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$3,000
and up
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$7,000
and up
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Lack
of sales makes this assessment difficult.
Asking prices have gone through the
roof!
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1958~1963
Speedmaster CK2998/ST105.002:
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Shortly after
introduction in 1957 several serious shortcomings of
the design came to light.
- While the black Arabics
on brushed steel on the Tachymetre bezel is easier for
the eye to read quickly, the brushed finish could
catch glare from the sun, not desirable on a watch
intended for use by Pilots, Drivers, and
boatsmen.
- This was solved by
switching to an enameled Silver on Black Tachymetre
bezel
- The large "Arrowshead"
hour hand covered up far too much of the dial and
sub-dials limiting the usefulness of the watch.
- This was addressed by
switching to Dauphine-styled main timekeeping
hands.
- In June 2000 I had
stated:
- The next model the
CK2998 (a.k.a. the Wally Schirra
as it was the model he wore on his Sigma 7 flight) ()
also fetch sub-orbital prices from $2,000 and up.
xx.xx
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I've seen several of
these Speedy's come up for sale and they seem to sell
right around $2,500 for the most part.
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1958~1963
Speedmaster CK2998
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$2,000
and up
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$2,000-$3,000
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Seen
several sales, median seems to be
$2,500
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1964~1965
Speedmaster
ST105.003:
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Next up is the Pre-Pro
Moon (ST105.003 or the "Ed White"). Still not
satisfied with the main timekeeping hands, Omega changed
these hands from their Dauphine Hands to simple white
"stick" hands. Since the sub-dial hands were also of
Dauphine shape they also were changed to simple white
stick hands...
In June 2000 I had
stated:
I purchased mine
around Thanksgiving 1999 for $1250, but there is a
nearly identical example to mine (the dial isn't as
good) that is being offered on eBay
and it was at $1,591 last night with 4 days+ to go on
the auction. it is interesting to watch this auction
as it is the first one of this particular model in
excellent condition in quite some time. At the moment
it is reaching the stratosphere... But who knows how
high it will go.
The eBay auction I elude to
ended up going over $2,100 dollars... Since then both the
range of prices and the average have increased a couple
of hundred dollars within the $1,200~$2,400.
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1964~1965
Speedmaster 105.003
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$1,200~$2,400
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$1,400~$2,500
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Lack of
sales makes this assessment difficult. Asking
prices have gone through the roof!
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Summary: These
are all of the "Pre-Pro" models. They are
becoming harder to find are starting to rise in price.
The prices have been climbing of all models of c.321
since some posts were made in the fall of 1999 on display
back c.321 conversions. My Gallery of c.321 Display Back
conversions has done nothing to slow this effect on the
values of c.321 Speedmaster's.
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The
Professional c.321
Models:
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While the
Pre-Pro's ceased production at some point in 1965, the
production of c.321 Speedmaster's continued until 1968
when the c.861 was adopted. But there was a little twist
along the way.
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1965
Speedmaster ST105.012:
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After learning of
NASA's adoption of the Speedmaster via pictures in
Life Magazine taken during Ed H. White II's Space Walk
during Gemini 4, Omega decided to rename the
Speedmaster the Speedmaster Professional. Omega also
changed the Model number for this revised model from
ST105.003 to ST105.012. The odd thing about this is
apparently this model number was only in use for a few
short months at the end of 1965. Shortly thereafter
Omega once again changed the Model number once again
to ST145.012. Hence one would think that the ST105.012
would fetch a premium because of the short production
run. However, from what I've seen people are unaware
of this distinction, as I was when I wrote the first
version of this document... In fact in the original
document I lumped the ST105.012's in with the later
ST145.012's. Fortunately since the pricing is pretty
much the same it is not a big deal.
Here is what I wrote in
June 2000:
- Next up is the
Speedmaster Professional c.321
(ST105.012). The prices on these have also
risen in the past 8-10 months. I paid $900 for my
92%-95% example last December. Since then I've seen
them go for just under $1,000 to being offered on
overseas dealer sites for upwards of $1,500. This
is the last model that uses the c.321 movement.
- The prices of both the
ST105.012 and the ST145.012 have been slowly rising
for the most part since the first article. But for
some reason I don't really understand I've seen two or
three pretty nice examples go for significantly under
$1,000 in the past two or three weeks on
eBay.
So while the range is broader the average price is
actually about the same. It is unknown if lower prices
for ST145.012 will continue or is merely people
selling off their examples in a post-holiday/pre-taxes
revenue building measure. I would expect prices of the
ST105.012 to increase as more people learn to look for
this model...
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1965
Speedmaster 105.012
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$900~$1,500
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$800~$1,800
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I
believe that as more people learn about this
model they value will increase...
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- Sidebar:
Speedmaster
evolution towards the current
design...
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The following
Speedmaster design features were established
with the:
- CK2915
[Original 1957] Hesalite
Crystal. [1957 models]:
current Silver on Black metal Tachy
Bezel begin appearing on CK2915-3
models and continue on through current
models with variations in font and
spelling of "Tachymetre"...
- CK2998/ST105.002
["Wally Schirra" Dauphine
Hands]
- ST105.003
["Ed White" Pre-Pro c.321]:
current "white stick" timekeeping and
sub-dial hands.[1963 through some
1965 models]
- ST105.012
[Pre-Moon Professional c.321]:
"Professional" dial text, larger modern
asymmetrical case design [flared
lugs/crown guard] with 20mm Lugs,
"Single
Angle" caseback
design...
[some 1965
models]
- ST145.003
[Pre-Moon c.321]: Omega
changed Case Reference nomenclature
necessitating new numbers for the 105.003
and 105.012. This is the new reference
number for the "Plain Lug"
Speedmaster.
- ST145.012
[Pre-Moon Professional c.321] no
changes to Bombé (twisted lug)
105.012 Speedmaster, but production ran
from 1966 through 1967 and into October
1968... There is some question if this
model or the previous model ST105.012 was
what Buzz Aldrin wore on the moon. Omega
via John Diethelm has indicated that they
know it to be a ST145.012, but a picture
in the Time Capsule (Page 107) shows a bin
with a number of Speedmasters from this
lot and the picture is in the 1965
section. So it's possible that Aldrin's
watch is a ST105.012...
- ST145.022
[Pre-Moon Professional c.861]
modern dial logo design [painted white
Omega logo instead of the metal applied
Omega logo] and c.861 movement. These
models can be further broken down into
“Pre-Moon Backs” from late 1968
through mid to late 1969, “1st Moon
Backs” from late 1969 through mid
1971, and “Modern Moon
casebacks”. To learn more on how to
discern between these three casebacks
link
to the article here...
- Thus, about
the only thing that is the same from the
1957 Speedmaster through the first "Man on
the Moon" caseback watch is the crystal...
Every other component [Pushers,
Crowns, Dials, Hands, Case, Movement,
Caseback...] had been changed,
sometimes multiple times during this
period... Shortly after the July 1969
Apollo 11 moon landing, Omega changed the
caseback to reflect that the Speedmaster
was "the first watch worn on the moon". So
the only common components between a 1969
Speedmaster Pro and its 1957 Speedmaster
ancestor is the crystal. And I'm not 100%
sure that the Crystal didn't see some
changes too!
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- The next
major change, aside from commemorative
editions to the main moonwatch line, was
the adoption of the c.1861/c.1863 movement
with Rhodium plating [instead of
Gilt], and an extra jewel in the
mid/late 1990's.
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Note: These are Design
Features. There have been many more
changes to specific items, like the font
of the Tachymetre bezel for example, since
then. However, the basic design style has
been the same since the models noted
above...
- For
more detailed information: Please
check out Gerry L.'s Excellent:
Time
Zone Classic 441:
Prelude to the Moonwatch: Evolution of the
321
Speedmaster's...
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1966-1967
Speedmaster ST145.012:
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As far as anyone has
been able to determine, it is most likely that this is
the exact model that Buzz Aldrin wore on the moon,
according to Omega and other evidence I and others
have quantified. As such it also is likely to be the
largest body of Pre-Moon Speedmaster Professionals
seem to be the ST145.012 of 1966 and 1967. I do
not know what the specific date of transition from the
c.321 movement to the c.861, but several sources say
this occurred in 1968. I do not know when in
1968 though. I have yet to see a ST145.012-68, I've
only seen ST145.022-68's so it seems likely that the
change occurred at or near the beginning of 1968. As I
had inadvertently lumped together the ST105.012 and
the ST145.012 in the previous article what I said in
June 2000 for the ST105.012 is the same thing as the
ST145.012:
Here again is what I
wrote in June 2000:
- Next up is the
Speedmaster Professional c.321
(ST105.012). The prices on these have also
risen in the past 8-10 months. I paid $900 for my
92%-95% example (which is a ST145.012-67 but I
hadn't had the back open before writing the
previous article) in December 1999. Since then I've
seen them go for just under $1,000 to being offered
on overseas dealer sites for upwards of $1,500.
This is the last model that uses the c.321
movement.
- The prices of both the
ST105.012 and the ST145.012 have been slowly rising
for the most part since the first article. But for
some reason I don't really understand I've seen two or
three pretty nice examples go for significantly under
$1,000 in the past two or three weeks on
eBay.
So while the range is broader the average price is
actually about the same. It is unknown if lower prices
for ST145.012 will continue or is merely people
selling off their examples in a post-holiday/pre-taxes
revenue building measure. I would expect prices of the
ST105.012 to increase as more people learn to look for
and seek out this particular model number.
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1966-1967
Speedmaster 145.012
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$900~$1,500
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$800~$1,800
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At
this point the price of this model seems to
have stabilized for the time
being...
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The
Professional c.861 Models (Pre & Post
Moon):
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1968-1969
Speedmaster ST145.022:
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- Then there are the
"Pre-Moon Pro c.861's"
(ST145.022) which have the exact external
appearance of the modern moonwatch except for the
caseback which bears no mention of NASA or moon
landings. These were only made from approximately 1968
through the first part of 1969 and has the older
"large Seamonster" case back.
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- In June 2000 I had
stated:
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- These have been
running from $750-$1,200 from what I've
seen.
The prices on these watches
have been stable at the June 2000 prices from my
observations.
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1968-9
Speedmaster Pro 145.022
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$750~$1,200
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$750~$1,200
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This
model's value seems stable...
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c.1970?~1977?
Speedmaster ST145.022:
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Then we have the first
of the "Post Moon" watches... These are the one's with
the large Omega Logo and the words "First watch Worn on
the moon"... These were made from late 1969 or 1970
through 1977 or so (I believe that's the date) when the
"modern/current" moonwatch back became the installed
caseback.
In June 2000 I had
stated:
These have a
similar price range as the last of the Pre-Moon Pro
c.861's with about a $100 less price range
typically.
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1970-7
Speedmaster Pro 145.022
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$700~$1,200
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$700~$1,200
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This
model's value seems stable...
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c.1978
and newer Speedmaster's:
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We've then moved to the
largest body of "Vintage" Speedmaster Pro's... These are
the familiar Speedmaster moonwatches that have the "The
First Watch Worn On The Moon -- Flight Qualified by NASA
for All Manned Space Missions" inscription with the
"Mini-SeaMonster" logo in the center. In other words the
modern version's.
In June 2000 I had
stated:
These typically
fetch prices in the $800-$1,100 range.
It is my observation that
these prices are stable as well...
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1978+
Speedmaster Pro 145.022
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$800~$1,100
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$800~$1,100
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This
model's value seems stable...
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Anniversary
& Commemorative Editions...
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As the popularity of the
Speedmaster seems to be a constant and that the are seen
as one of Omega's finest achievements, Omega has chosen
to mark anniversaries of being the first watch worn on
the moon with a number of Anniversary Editions starting
in 1980 with a 10th Anniversary edition. These models are
typically only distinguished by engraving on the 9
o'clock side of the case with Apollo XI and a limited
edition number xxxx/xxxx. However the recent 30th
Anniversary also had a modified caseback that stated
"Houston, Tranquility Base Here... The Eagle has landed"
with the time and date (in GMT time) "July 21,1969, 02:56
GMT" around an applied medallion of the Apollo 11 mission
patch.
In June 2000 I had
stated:
These
Speedmaster's vary widely in price with 20th
anniversary editions going upwards of $2,200+ when
they appear, to somewhat less for 25th and 30th
anniversary editions.
I have yet to see a 10th
Anniversary edition for sale. I don't even know how many
were made, only that both Yellow Gold and White Gold
versions were made in addition to Stainless Steel. As
such I'm not able to venture a guess on valuation on
them. The other models are as follows.
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1980
10th Anniversary Edition
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Unknown
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Unknown
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Unknown
number made, rarely seen for sale...
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1989
20th Anniversary Edition
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$2,200+
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Around
$2,000
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2,000
made
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1994
25th Anniversary Edition
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$1,800-$2,000
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$1,800-$2,000
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2,500
made
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1999
30th Anniversary Edition
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$1,700-$1,900
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$1,700-$1,900
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10,000
made
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Commemorative
or "Mission Watches":
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The mission patch
watches are called that because a graphic of specific
Gemini/Apollo/Skylab mission patch replace the sub-second
register.
In June 2000 I had
stated:
These also vary
greatly in price with "popular missions" like Apollo's
8/11/13 fetching prices in the "high teens" and above.
Less popular, less widely known/remembered missions
fetching significantly less in the $1,250 to $1,500
range.
- For the most part these
prices have been stable but the range of prices have
increased slightly... Note that sometimes the Apollo
17 commemorative can reach the price of the "popular"
Apollo's 8/11/13 as it was the last moon
mission...
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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Apollo
8/11/13 Missions
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$1,750-$1,900
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$1,700-$2,000
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Apollo 17
can sometimes go in this range as it was the
last moon mission...
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Other
Mission Watches
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$1,250-$1,500
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$1,250-$1,600
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Summary
and closing thoughts...
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Here are
all of the valuations together in one place...
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Consolidated
Pricing Table:
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Model:
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Price
Range
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Remarks:
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June
2000
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January
2001
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1957
Speedmaster CK2915
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$3,000
and up
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$7,000
and up
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Lack of
sales makes this assessment difficult. Asking
prices have gone through the roof!
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1958~1963
Speedmaster CK2998
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$2,000
and up
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$2,000-$3,000
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Seen
several sales, median seems to be
$2,500
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1964~1965
Speedmaster 105.003
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$1,200~$2,400
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$1,400~$2,500
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Lack of
sales makes this assessment difficult. Asking
prices have gone through the roof!
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The
Professional c.321 Models:
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1965
Speedmaster Pro 105.012
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$900~$1,500
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$800~$1,800
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I believe
that as more people learn about this model they
value will increase...
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1966-7
Speedmaster Pro 145.012
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$900~$1,500
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$800~$1,800
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At this
point the price of this model seems to have
stabilized for the time being...
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The
Professional c.861 Models (Pre & Post
Moon):
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1968-9
Speedmaster Pro 145.022
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$750~$1,200
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$750~$1,200
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This
model's value seems stable...
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1970-7
Speedmaster Pro 145.022
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$700~$1,200
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$700~$1,200
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This
model's value seems stable...
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1978+
Speedmaster Pro 145.022
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$800~$1,100
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$800~$1,100
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This
model's value seems stable...
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Anniversary
& Commemorative Editions...
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1980
10th Anniversary Edition
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Unknown
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Unknown
|
Unknown
number made, rarely seen for sale...
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1989
20th Anniversary Edition
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$2,200+
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Around
$2,000
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2,000
made
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1994
25th Anniversary Edition
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$1,800-$2,000
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$1,800-$2,000
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2,500
made
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1999
30th Anniversary Edition
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$1,700-$1,900
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$1,700-$1,900
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10,000
made
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Apollo
8/11/13 Missions
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$1,750-$1,900
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$1,700-$2,000
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Apollo 17
can sometimes go in this range as it was the
last moon mission...
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Other
Mission Watches
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$1,250-$1,500
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$1,250-$1,600
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In
June 2000 I had stated:
These are all
prices that I have seen on auction sites, web dealers,
and Watch Site Sales Corner(s)... They reflect my
memory and impressions as of this date
[16-June-2000] and will change probably even
before I post this message. Remember that price will
vary widely because of condition, papers (if any),
other "Extras", scarcity, demand as well as other
intangibles.
All of the above remains
just as true today as it was when I first wrote it.
- Again this
important disclaimer:
-
[Please
be aware that the prices mentioned in this post are
speculative, based on the author's observations as
of 28 January 2001. Watches, vintage watches in
particular, are a commodity and as such are volatile and
subject to supply & demand... In addition they will
vary widely because of condition, originality, papers (if
any), open warrantee, other "Extras", and intangibles.
There are plenty of poorly maintained, cobbled together,
faked model's rare and otherwise out there on the market.
Be very cautious and remember any printed document is no
substitute for a dialog in a watch forum. If you have
questions speak up, or be prepared to make mistakes. To
put it simply... Your decisions are your own, make them
wisely... -- Chuck Maddox 28 January 2001]
The bottom line on the value
of any item is what a buyer is willing to pay...
- I hope this is
helpful...
-- Chuck
Afterword:
Thoughts on watch values looking back on
2001...
on 16 December
2001 K.J. O'Brien asked the following questions (in
bold italic type). My responses will serve as a
basic overview to values over the past
year:
To: Chuck Maddox:Value
of Speedmasters drop ???
Chuck - I know you
watch the value of the different Speedys and have posted
articles to back up what you say.
Actually, any more
I really only watch the values of pieces I'm actively
seeking for my collection or passively looking for
bargains for on any sort of consistant basis. I have
not been keeping a constant eye on Speedmaster values
in general... I have been known to take a snapshot of
values from time to time and compare/contrast them
with past snapshots, but it's always been more of a
stop-action sort of affair not a motion
picture.
Have you noticed a
recent {last 4 months} a bit of a decline in the values
of the high end Speedys-125's,2998's,other pre-moons and
some moons?
Well, and again as
I have said I haven't been keeping as close of a
watch, I believe it is a fair statement to say that in
general the values of watches has been flat. I haven't
really noticed any great drop, but I haven't been
following it with a zeal necessary to give a real
definate statement.
But some thoughts to
consider...
There have been a lot of
people taking up the collecting of watches in the past
couple of years, myself among them. One of the few
things that have acted as a check against increasing
prices has been the world economy.
Now people say that the
U.S. is in a recession, and the economists have now
said that the recession started as early as March of
this (2001) year. Well, I have news for them... The
world economy has been slowing down as far back as the
"Asian Contagion", in late 1997... Before that the
world economy was going great guns. Since then growth
has been on a decline. As economist's definition of a
recession is an economy that is not growing they are
perhaps correct that the recession is a recent thing.
But the economic slowdown started much much
earlier. The economy was still growing before then,
just not as quickly, but instead steadily slowing.
'til this year when it's movement slowed down to the
point it started shrinking...
When people are concerned
about the future of the economy they are less likely
to part with money in hand, especially for luxury
goods. This has been a restraining factor in values of
watches on the vintage market. The less healthy the
economy has been the greater the drag on values.
Increased interest and more limited availability are
thrust.
The events of 11
September and since have had an impact on the values
of most watches on the market. Something like 700,000
~ 1,000,000 people in the U.S. are out of work since
9/11 and people who are out of work don't tend to
purchase luxury goods at the same pace as employed
folk, nor to people who are concerned about being laid
off. And like it or not, vintage watches are a luxury
good.
In fact there were a
number of watch bargains in the short-term aftermath
of 9/11, from what I've observed.
So, in general, it seems
to my admittedly casual observations that the values
of most models have been flat when items have changed
hands.
On the other hand the
prices of the Anniversary-10th,20th,25th,30th moons
continues to go up?
Frankly, I haven't
seen any 10th's sell in the past couple of months
(since 9/11), other models seem to be stable, that is
flat. The value of the 125 seem to have come down
some, but I think that is due as much to it's
traditional issues (it's size, bulk and mass) and it's
seeming unsuitability as a daily wearer for the people
who have been snapping them up (primarily Japanese
buyers) as anything else... Remember that the
Speedmaster 125 also is an anniversary model, just not
a moonwatch anniversary model... (Note: the
value's of Speedmaster 125 have risen in the past year
due to the popularity of a prime-time Japanese TV
detective series).
Thanks
Chuck...........KO
I feel that for the
most part, many watches are just as hard to come by if
not harder to come by than ever, however there are
fewer people and dollars (Pounds, Euros, Marks,
Gilders, Shekels, Rubles, Yen, etc) chasing them. If
you remember the Supply and Demand Chart from
Economics 101 you'll know that result in a flat
price/value trend...
Good
hunting...
-- Chuck
- Addendum:
The
quickest way to get a short term picture of the value
of any thing is to do a completed
auction search
on any topic on eBay. This will show you what the
price is at close of auctions for items similar to
your search criteria. Of course you will have to pick
through the resulting listing for comparative
condition, location, extra's, etc. of each item as
well as to check to see if the reserve was met, but
this will give you a basis idea as what similar items
have been closing at for the previous couple of
weeks...
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-- Chuck
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